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Glenn Beck blames the Holocaust on Charles Darwin

Seeded on Fri Aug 20, 2010 5:57 PM EDT
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Last night, Glenn Beck blended his anti-progressive polemics with anti-evolution dogma, attacking Charles Darwin as "the father of modern day racism" who "plant[ed] the seed that leads to progressivism, eugenics." He expanded on this critique on the radio this morning, saying that Darwin wrote about "the savages" and announcing: "I understand why Darwin has to be taught in schools now. You have to teach evolution, because if you don't teach evolution, progressivism falls apart." According to Beck and his cohorts, a direct line can be drawn between Darwin, eugenics, and Hitler: "Charles Darwin is the father of the Holocaust."

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proglib

Much of what Beck is referring to can be found in Darwin's The Descent of Man, published in 1871 -- in particular Chapter 5, titled "On the development of the intellectual and moral faculties during primeval and civilized times." And, indeed, Darwin's writings are peppered with terminology and assertions that, to modern sensibilities, are offensive. That Darwin was writing at a time in which theories of racial superiority were widely accepted -- the United States had just wrapped up a war predicated on the notion that blacks were inferior to whites -- is not exculpatory but does add some needed context.

But to lay blame for "modern racism," eugenics, and the Holocaust at Darwin's feet is not only wrong, it's phenomenally lazy and an act of profound cowardice from a self-styled "thinker" like Glenn Beck.

  • 4 votes
Reply#1 - Fri Aug 20, 2010 5:59 PM EDT
randytexas

Did you actually think Beck would look into the subject more that a topical glance? He just picked up the most feared word, being Darwin, and splicing it with a racial rant.

I guess this topic is what they are studyingat Beck University this week...I'd love to audit the course and see what I've missed from my "liberal" college education. By the way, isn't Darwinism scientific theory? Something the Becksters whole heartedly denounce.

  • 4 votes
Reply#2 - Fri Aug 20, 2010 6:20 PM EDT
King Dave

Glenn Beck admits to spewing non sense for ratings and money. Because that's all TV is, a business. It's our responsibility not to lend Glenn Beck any credibility.

  • 6 votes
Reply#3 - Fri Aug 20, 2010 6:20 PM EDT
ScienceGuy-356641

Everybody loves a scapegoat, and Beck has a dumpster full of them. It's intellectually lazy and ethically disingenuous to blame (progressives, the Civil Rights Acts, FDR, gays, atheists, immigrants, the United Nations, .... Darwin!), but that continues to be Beck's m.o.

  • 4 votes
Reply#4 - Fri Aug 20, 2010 6:21 PM EDT
POaksitwithastick

But to lay blame for "modern racism," eugenics, and the Holocaust at Darwin's feet is not only wrong, it's phenomenally lazy and an act of profound cowardice from a self-styled "thinker" like Glenn Beck.

This is what he gets paid to say? Unbelievable. Maybe I'm naive or simply stupid but wasn't Hitler the father of the Holocaust?

According to Beck and his cohorts, a direct line can be drawn between Darwin, eugenics, and Hitler: "Charles Darwin is the father of the Holocaust."

Where's the proof that Hitler read is writings?

  • 2 votes
Reply#5 - Fri Aug 20, 2010 6:24 PM EDT
Blearc

Cause there weren't no bigots before Darwin...........

Using his logic we could blame 911 on some jews

On one of my seeds I seriously had one of his worshippers say that Beck should be a mandatory class in our high schools.

  • 4 votes
Reply#6 - Fri Aug 20, 2010 6:26 PM EDT
D Luniz-1282741

So, who wants to draw straws to remind Beck that Darwin was DEEPLY religous, and talked with his wife to decide if he would even publish his work

  • 2 votes
Reply#7 - Fri Aug 20, 2010 6:28 PM EDT
BLOGER-486140

This is old news. This isn't the first time the religious right has tried to associate Darwin with Nazi Genocide. Eugenics a perverted in fake misinterpretation of Evolution did influenced the Nazi but so did many of the darker elements of Religion. Using the usually sloppy logic of Mr Beck, you could also claim Christianity lead to the holocaust.

Do conservative really think this man furthers their political agenda. He is considered a fool by most. More the Howard Stern of politics than the voice of a political movement. He only speaks to his already converted choir, the rest listen with amusement. He is good for a laugh. When I think conservative I think Glen and that isn't a positive association. If conservative ever want respect they need to ditch the three stooges, Glen, Rush and Sarah.

  • 1 vote
Reply#8 - Fri Aug 20, 2010 10:46 PM EDT
Fearless Leader-2158343

This is old news. This isn't the first time the religious right has tried to associate Darwin with Nazi Genocide

This used to be called social darwinism. I've forgotten the proponents, but it's phony. It had more to do with a misunderstanding of natural selection and survival of the fittest as applied to societies. It's a straw man used by dominionists and their ilk to associate hitler with the left and as an excuse to attack modern evolutionary theory or any sort of thinking that came after the fifth century or so.

  • 1 vote
#8.1 - Sat Aug 21, 2010 1:49 PM EDT
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Vlad's dog

And Galileo is the father of the space shuttle disaster.

  • 4 votes
Reply#9 - Sat Aug 21, 2010 10:55 AM EDT
kaviaq

And we'll have to blame Newton for all deaths by falling.

  • 3 votes
#9.1 - Sat Aug 21, 2010 11:23 AM EDT
D Luniz-1282741

and declare war on China for inventing gunpowder

  • 2 votes
#9.2 - Sat Aug 21, 2010 1:09 PM EDT
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jfrank

This guy is a nutjob.

  • 2 votes
Reply#10 - Sat Aug 21, 2010 11:01 PM EDT
airedale-2245719

His point was that Darwin planted the seed that became the eugenics movement. Which is a pretty logical extension of the idea of survival of the fittest. One of the first things that resulted from Darwin was selective scientific breeding of animals. That's why we have recognized dog breeds, etc (large # of them) and why they have had their looks standardized. Of course the result is increased genetic problems as the gene pool was narrowed and in a lot of cases the loss of the abilities that made them useful. The Irish Setter comes to mind. It used to be a smart good hunting dog. With rare exceptions that's not the kind of dog you'd want today for hunting.

The eugenics groups took the ideas found in animal husbandry and applied it to humans. They wanted to get rid of the defectives. They also wanted to get rid of inferior beings (lots of them felt Blacks were inferior and needed to be eliminated. Sanger was one of those.) The eugenics movement here and in the UK were really big and they were a good part of the source of the idea of a "master race" that Hitler tried to create in his demented and horrible manner.

How about this nice PBS article: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/darwin/nameof/ Where it says:

"The specter of eugenics hovers over virtually all contemporary developments in human genetics. Eugenics was rooted in the social Darwinism of the late 19th century, a period in which notions of fitness, competition, and biological rationalizations of inequality were popular. At the time, a growing number of theorists introduced Darwinian analogies of "survival of the fittest" into social argument. Many social Darwinists insisted that biology was destiny, at least for the unfit, and that a broad spectrum of socially deleterious traits, ranging from "pauperism" to mental illness, resulted from heredity.

The word "eugenics" was coined in 1883 by the English scientist Francis Galton, a cousin of Charles Darwin, to promote the ideal of perfecting the human race by, as he put it, getting rid of its "undesirables" while multiplying its "desirables" -- that is, by encouraging the procreation of the social Darwinian fit and discouraging that of the unfit. In Galton's day, the science of genetics was not yet understood. Nevertheless, Darwin's theory of evolution taught that species did change as a result of natural selection, and it was well known that by artificial selection a farmer could obtain permanent breeds of plants and animals strong in particular characteristics. Galton wondered, "Could not the race of men be similarly improved?" ..." There are a lot more pages of info at the site.

Or how about the ever popular Wikipeidia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin Read the sections on Eugenics and Social Darwinism.

Basically Beck is right. Charles Darwin did plant the seed that the progressives turned into eugenics and Social Darwinism.

    Reply#11 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 12:55 AM EDT
    kaviaq

    His point was that Darwin planted the seed that became the eugenics movement.

    All Darwin did was describe a physical reality. The term "social Darwinism" is a misnomer. Darwin had nothing to do with it. Blaming Darwin for Eugenics is like blaming Newton for people falling down stairs.

    • 3 votes
    #11.1 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 5:32 PM EDT
    D Luniz-1282741

    or blaming Louis Pasteur for biological weapons
    or Antoine Lavoisier for chemical weapons
    or Albert Einstein for nuclear weapons

    they just worked the science, others chose to use the knowledge to harm others

    • 2 votes
    #11.2 - Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:24 PM EDT
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    Blayde

    Beck, I always show up at his dismantling, he isn't coherent but he is spiritedly, totally, insane.

    What Beck says is like a pile of dung from a wounded animal, easily tracked, easily feasted on when it dies and becomes a carcase.

    • 1 vote
    Reply#12 - Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:39 PM EDT
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